The Vroom Slide System Upgrade is our biggest upgrade to date. The only thing I can think of that would be a bigger upgrade would be if we installed a solar system on our coach.
When one of the slides on our 2019 Thor Challenger 37YT jammed it became a nine-and-a-half-week ordeal to get it fixed. Our slide system issues made us aware that the Schwintek Slide System used on a majority of RVs on the road today, is not substantial enough for the large slides on Class A motorhomes and other RVs.
While reading stories of others that had problems with their Schwintek Slide Systems I came across a post on Facebook from a guy with a Challenger like ours, who just had the Vroom Slide System Upgrade done on his coach. After messaging him I knew the Vroom Slide System was what we wanted for our “home”.
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Planning
I called and talked to the owner of Vroom, and discussed his slide system and how it is better than the Schwintek System on our motorhome. His shop is in Tucson, Arizona and we were in North Texas. Since we were in Texas for the winter we asked when we could get into the shop to have the Vroom Slide System installed. We were told the earliest we could get in was April 4, 2022. Okay with the five-month wait, we planned on looping around on our way back to Yellowstone this spring.
Arrival
Anxiously we arrived at Vroom Engineering and Manufacturing at 7 am on April 4th. We were met by the owner of Vroom and Joey, the slide system installation manager. What was supposed to be a day and a half installation we were told was going to take longer because they were short on parts. Vroom manufactures the whole system in-house and was a bit behind on making some of the pieces required for the upgrade. I asked how much longer we were going to have to wait and was told just an extra day. The delay wouldn’t change our plans by much, so we were ok with it.
We left our home with the Vroom guys and headed to a hotel for a couple of nights. Lisa always enjoys getting a hotel so she can have a bath. A bathtub is the one thing she misses most about living in an RV.
The Upgrade
I stopped by later in the day to see how things were progressing and to pick up some extra clothes since we’d spend two nights at the hotel instead of one. They had our old Schwintek System out of two of the three slides and things were going as planned.
On the second day, I stopped in to get an update on how the installation of our Vroom Slide System was going. I talked to Joey and he showed me the parts that they had for our RV. He explained how the parts worked and how they were better than our old Schwintek parts.
I was impressed by how much bigger the gears were than our original system.
Joey showed me parts that had just arrived from the machine shop, some of which were going to be installed on our coach.
The installation was coming along nicely, Joey explained that they adjust all the rollers that the slide sits on to ensure the system works better than when the coach was new. He also showed me how they use a jig to align the system to the outer wall of the slide instead of the floor as the RV manufacturers do. Everything involved with the installation of the Vroom System seems to make sure the slides always work as they should.
On day three we arrived around 11:30 am after checking out of our hotel room. Hoping that our motorhome would be done when we got to the shop, but the guys were still working. All three slides had the system installed and they were working on testing everything. They go above and beyond to ensure everything works properly. Once the testing was complete they had to install the seal pieces that cover the motors, shafts, and gears.
The guys showed me how in the unlikely event the slide won’t go in or out you can back off the 3/4″ nut on the bottom of each side then turn the 7/16″ bolt head to move the slide or push the slide in or out manually, something that couldn’t be done with the Schwintek System.
The Vroom team worked hard, finished testing, installed the outer seals, reinstalled the trim that was removed inside, and cleaned our coach thoroughly. While it took longer than we expected we’re very pleased with the work Vroom did and with the Vroom Slide System itself.
We were on our way shortly after 4:00 pm on the third day. Normally the installation will be a day and a half for three slides. But with them making parts it took a bit longer for our installation. We’re happy we didn’t get postponed or canceled.
Parts Comparison
In our opinion, the Vroom Slide System is a huge improvement over the Schwintek Slide System. The first thing you notice is the bigger gears and roller bearings on the Vroom System. The motor is attached using four screws mounted into the gear block. On the Schwintek System, the motor is held in place with a single set screw that allows the motor to move about and if something happens to it or it backs out the motor can spin damaging the wiring.
Again the comparison of the gears and the block is much more substantial on the Vroom Block.
Along with bigger gears the tracks are bigger as well.
Schwintek uses what they call a V-roller on their system, this nylon wheel rides in a groove on the bottom of the track. The Vroom System uses a metal roller wheel with needle bearings for a much-improved system.
One thing I missed getting pictures of on our old system was the seals. On the Schwintek System, the seals for the slide are 1 1/4″ wide, which left a gap on one of our slides. The Vroom guys said that wasn’t uncommon so they created seals that are 1 3/4″ wide. The only thing I would have liked differently is to have a black instead of a white seal assembly. We were told they ran out of black powder coat so we ended up with white. Not a huge deal to us.
Before and After
The Vroom Slide System is a huge improvement over the Schwintek System. Our old system struggled with the two 17′ slides on our motorhome. The motors seemed to have a hard time moving the large slides in and out smoothly.
Our Vroom Slide System runs quietly and smoothly. It is a bit slower than the Schwintek System but more robust with the high torque 500:1 motors. The old Schwintek System had 300:1 motors.
With the Vroom Slide system, things seem to run with ease. No more sounds of motors struggling to move a slide in or out.
Price
The Vroom Slide System is expensive but a well-worth-it upgrade for any RV that has the Schwintek Slide System installed. The piece of mind that comes with knowing the slide is going to function when you plan on it is enough to make the upgrade worth the price.
We were quoted $2500 per slide in November 2021, for an April 2022 installation. That’s what we paid when we had our system put in.
Recently we’ve heard prices have gone up. I talked to people in November 2022 that said the price is now $4500 per slide. (Pricing is determined by the RV and may differ from the listed price.)
While it’s a big jump I still feel that the price is reasonable. Considering that if your Schwintek slide ends up having problems like a lot of them do, then you’re going to be in a big chunk of money just repairing the system that will inevitably fail again down the road.
I saw on a forum someone said if you are going to put $1000 into your Schwintek System you might want to invest in the Vroom System instead. Otherwise, you’ll be throwing good money after bad. My opinion is if you’re going to spend $2000 to repair a Schwintek System, (which is very easy to do), I’d invest in the Vroom System.
Installation Locations
Vroom has been working on getting technicians throughout the country trained on the installation of the Vroom Slide System. Below are the current authorized installation locations. (I’m working on getting any other locations. If you know of any please let me know. Thank you.)
Arizona
Vroom Slide Systems – 11835 North Tangerine Business Loop, Marana, Arizona 85658 (This is Vroom’s new location in the Tucson area.)
Alabama
Tiffin Motorhomes Inc. – Red Bay, Alabama
Custom RV – Red Bay, Alabama
California
RV Specialists – San Diego, California
Connecticut
Connecticut Motor Cars & Coaches – Plainville, Connecticut
Louisiana
Tech RV Service Center – Maurice, Louisiana
Texas
Patriots RV Services – Aubrey, Texas
Utah
Elite RV Repair and Service – Wood Cross, Utah
Wisconsin
Fabel Repair and Collision Center– Appleton, Wisconsin
Conclusion
We’re more than thrilled with the Vroom Slide System Upgrade. It is an expensive upgrade but since this is our home we feel it is well worth it not to have to hold our breath and pray our slides will move when we want them to. Everyone we met at Vroom Engineering & Manufacturing was friendly and answered all our questions. Joey, Miguel, and Anthony did a great job with the installation.
Have you had problems with your Schwintek Slide System? Have you thought about upgrading to something better?
If you’ve had issues with your Schwintek Slide Systems we highly recommend upgrading to the Vroom Slide System!
Thank you for taking the time to read our article on our Vroom Slide System Upgrade. If you have any questions or comments please let us know below.
I have a customer that would like to have the Vroom system installed on 2 of his slide rooms It is a Winn Elipse 2013 How do I go about purchasing your systems I have the Lippert Schwintek numbers for cross reference. I would also like to be a prefered repair facility for Florida
Hi Bob, Thank you for your question. We’re not part of Vroom Manufacturing, we’re Full Time RVers that had the Vroom Slide System installed on our motorhome. You’re going to want to contact Vroom directly at 520-209-2788 to answer your questions.
Best of luck,
Rob
Unfortunately, they’re not installing the Vroom system on the larger slides due experiencing unacceptably high failure rates. They’ve been working on a fix for months but so far, I’m out of luck with the large slide on my 2017 Thor Challenger.
Sorry to hear that Leroy. I hear they are working to resolve the issues with the larger slides. Unfortunately the Schwintek System is only good for the small slides the mid size and large slides they have issues with. The Vroom System is a huge improvement but when you get to the slides over 18 feet that’s a long distance to span and I’m sure the flex over that distance is what causes the issues. Keep checking with them they may get it resolved in the future. Best of luck with your slides. Rob
Hello,
I have a THOR Hurricane model 29M 2021 with a full slide out driver side , I’m having a huge problem with the racking, everything is wear and doesn’t work anymore and I was looking to get the vroom slide system, my understanding is that the vroom slide system doesn’t work well on those full wall, is that what you are saying?
Jean Lebire
514.781.9233
Hello Jean,
Sorry to hear you’re having issues with your Schwintek Slide System. I have heard conflicting information on the Vroom Slide System being installed on the Full Wall Slides. I don’t think Vroom themselves will install them at their location in Tucson, but I believe I have heard that some of the installers around the country do still install the system on full wall slides. You might be best to reach out to some of them and find out. I hope you get your system running well. Vroom is a much better system in my opinion. Thank you for your question, Rob
Where are the locations for the Vroom slide install
Hi Brian, Thank you for your question. Vroom Manufacturing’s main installation location is in Tucson, Arizona. I know they have been working on training technicians around the country on the installation process. I know they have a location in Texas and Appleton, Wisconsin. I heard somewhere that they may have a place in California, but I’m not sure what other locations they have trained to do them now. You can give them a call at (520) 209-2778 to find out.
$4800 per slide now..??? really??? Think Illl stick with my crap shwintec till prices come down to earth.
Hello Tom, Thank you for your input. Last I heard they were $4500 per slide. While it is high, when I had one side of my crap Schwintek Slide fixed it was nearly $2000. That was just to repair one side of one slide. I don’t foresee prices coming down on these. Even at $4500-$4800 per slide I feel for the peace of mind it makes it worth while especially if you’re a full-time RVer.
Rob
tom, I kept my crap schwintek slide out and it failed. Lippert had a TSB to fix it at no cost to me. I just had to take it to one of their recommended dealers for the repairs to be done. The repairs were done two months later and Lippert didn’t like the way they were done. The Lippert recommended dealer told me to pay for it or he would charge me $80.00 a day for storage. My trailer was held for ransom and I had to pay it. I wound up paying $3,300 for the repairs. I still have a CRAP schwintek slide out. I’m holding my breath every time I use it knowing when it fails again it will be another $3,300 or more. If you are going to try to do the repairs yourself, the price of the parts is insane. When I look at the price Vroom wants, $4.500 as of today 4/10/2024, I think it is a good price considering what I will pay for two schwintek slide out repairs, $6,600. My first schwintek slide lasted two years. Will I get another two years? Who knows? I have an appointment for my vroom slide install on May 1st.
Thank you for your comments, Tom. Sorry to hear you have gone through so much with your Schwintek Slide System. I know what you mean about having to hold your breath every time you use your slide. With Vroom we haven’t had that feeling. While the price for Vroom is high it’s not much more than the Schwintek repairs that you end up still having a system you need to hold your breath with. I’ve heard they are even making the Vroom system better than when we got ours a couple of years ago. Best of luck with your Vroom System. Rob
We take our camper to the Appleton WI location to have our VROOM slide installed this weekend. I’m holding my breath that this will be a SOLID solution to our 2022 grand design. We have had nothing but problems with the slide on this camper. The dealership offered no help. Schwintek and Grand Design should be embarrassed by the kind of product they are supplying the customers.
Hi Rhonda, Thank you for your input. I’m sure you will be happy with the Vroom System. We have had ours for just about a year now and are very happy with it. We don’t feel like we need to pray things work when we need them to each and every time. Glad to hear that Vroom has trained other locations on the installations. I agree that Schwintek and the manufacturers should do better by their customers with the slide systems. Best wishes, Rob
Hi, Rhonda! This is my first Grand Design, but my third with a Schwintek system, one of which was the bed-tilt system. When the bed-tilt went south I found that the RV manufacturer did not follow Lippert’s installation instructions. No, I didn’t take it to the dealer, choosing to fix it myself…and not having another problem in over 8 years. This time my Grand Design’s Schwintek slide system took a header with no previous indication of a problem. Our trailer is out of warranty but Grand Design still worked with us. In my opinion they are the best bunch I have ever had the pleasure to deal with. Yes, pleasure. None of them are perfect (manufacturers) but from day one I knew GD was better than they others and they continue to prove it.
Thanks for your input, Bruce. Glad to hear Grand Design stood behind their product. From what we’ve seen the Schwintek System is troublesome in larger slides. I think the parts are just undersized.
Same here with a 2022 Montana high country….2 slides with schwintek systems and currently on the 5th cumulative complete failure…have had each system changed twice ….getting an attorney to make keystone install vroom…I’m so over this ordeal.
Hi Sadie, Sorry to hear you’re having issues with the Schwintek System on your Montana. It really is sad that all these manufacturers are still putting in an inferior system when Vroom is available. I hope you’re able to get your system switched over! Best of luck, Rob
I’m sorry, a $2,000.00 (approx. 80%) increase in 7 months is wrong. Nothing justifies that except taking advantage of the bad economy.
Thanks for your comments, Chris. In my opinion, even with the increase in cost, you’re still better off replacing the system with Vroom if you have issues with the Schwintek System. It was $1600 just to replace one side of one slide we had an issue with. And you still have a crappy system that you have to pray it’ll work when you push the button. So to replace both sides of a Schwintek system is going to be $3200+, you can get a much better Vroom system for $4500/slide. It’s still worth changing.
I am scheduled to get the Vroom system in our Lance TT to replace the current Schwintek. I agree with not wanting to hold my breath every time I push the button and it failed once already. Question: do you need to hold the button to synch the motors on the Vroom?
Hi Keith, Congratulations on getting scheduled to switch over to the Vroom System. You don’t need to hold the button to synch the motors on the Vroom System. In fact, you can stop running the system at any position and then start again. We really love the system. We haven’t had to hold our breath once since we got the Vroom System. I totally believe this is the system all RVs should have installed new. Thanks for your comments.
Rob
Does the Vroom system have reset control panel like the Schwintek system? Also what about getting parts down the road if something breaks?
Hello Mike, Thank you for your questions. The Vroom System uses the same Schwintek Control Panel it isn’t switched out at least on our installation it wasn’t. I know they were making their own but don’t know if they are installing them yet. I asked Brian Vroom what to do if we needed a motor or something. He told me they stand behind their parts and would send one if needed.
Thank you so much for info on the Vroom system. Do you have a phone number for them?
Thanks
Ron
Hi Ron, Thank you for your question. The phone number for Vroom Manufacturing is (520) 209-2778. They can put you in contact with Brian Vroom or one of his guys working the Slide System side of things.
Wishing you the best,
Rob
Thanks for the great review and recommendation
We have appointment with Vroom in September
One question is I’ve heard that your not supposed to sit on the dinette with the slide out in or retracted with the shwintec
Being the Vroom slide out system is much stronger and robust do you think it would be ok to sit on dinette with the slide out in or retracted
Hello Bryan,
I’ve never heard that you’re not supposed to sit on the dinette with the slide-out. I don’t know why they would put them in an RV if you’re not able to use them with the slides out. We’ve always used our dinette with the slides out I don’t think there is an issue with doing so. We’re really happy with our Vroom System so far. Good luck with yours.
Rob
Hi Bryan, I was curious if you had your Vroom Slide System installed in September? If so, how did things go?
Hi,
We have a SLIDE that is stuck all the way out on one side and 9 inches out of adjustment on the other side. And we. need to get it in.
Hi Dave, Sorry, you are having problems with your slide. Is it a Vroom Slide System?